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Suzanne de Passe Reveals the Nickname She Called Michael Jackson for 'Decades,' Recalls Seeing Jackson 5 for the First Time (Exclusive)

Suzanne de Passe discovered The Jackson 5 and convinced Motown founder Berry Gordy to give them a chance

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It's unlikely that The Jackson 5 would have reached the same level of global stardom without Suzanne de Passe.

The music and film producer, 79, reflects on the first time she saw the iconic group perform while chatting with PEOPLE at the Hollywood premiere ofMichaelon April 20.

De Passe says she was invited to visit Motown singer and producer Bobby Taylor one day in the late 1960s when he mentioned a new act.

"He said, ‘I want you to see something.' And I was standing, and he clapped his hand and said, ‘Okay, fellas, this is Suzanne. She works for Mr. Gordy and she can get us the audition.' "

Jackie Jackson, Prince Jackson, Suzanne de Passe and Marlon JacksonCredit: Bauer-Griffin/FilmMagic

“They got up and they sang like four songs acapella, blew me away," de Passe, who worked as a creative assistant to Motown founder Berry Gordy at the time, says.

She continues, "This is way before cell phones. So I went back to my apartment and called Mr. Gordy. I didn't get him the first day. And when I finally spoke to him, I said, ‘Okay, so Gordy, I saw a great act.' He said, ‘Great, that's what you're supposed to do. You're my creative assistant.' I said, ‘Wait 'til you see these kids.' He went, ‘Kids? I don't want any kid acts. Do you know how much trouble Stevie Wonder is?' ”

While de Passe was still new to Gordy's team and was “still learning everything," she felt confident that she was onto something good.

“And my, I think, claim to fame is I did not give up. I was relentless," she shares. "And when he saw them, it was the beginning of this history."

The Jackson 5 was formed in 1964 and included Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, and Michael Jackson. Taylor famously discovered the group in 1968 in Chicago, later bringing them to Michigan. By 1969, the group already had a hit with the release of "I Want You Back," which reached No. 1 on theBillboardHot 100.

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Despite what “most people perceive,” de Passe says that Michael was “very much a kid" when the band was thrust into stardom. The singer was just 5 years old when the band was first formed and 10 by the time they were signed to Motown.

“When we were on the road, we would all be on the same floor and keep our doors open and stuff like that. And he liked to hide in my room," she recalls. "And you know, he'd be behind the curtain and you'd see his little feet sticking out from the curtain, the shower curtain, the closet and he would go, ‘Boo!' And I would go, ‘Yeah, yeah, you really scared me. I was so scared.' "

This led her to give the then-tween the nickname Casper, after the friendly ghost.

“For the next three decades, I called him Casper, and he answered. Michael was Casper and Marlon was Dudley, as in Dudley Do-Right, because he was very law-abiding,” she shares.

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About the movieMichael, she shares that Jafar Jackson,who is playing Michael,is the “embodiment of his uncle” and “if you don't have Michael, you don't have a movie.”

“They have a movie because of Jafar. And all the things that went into it, of course, the production and the direction and all of that, the cast. But I think the big difference is Jafar.”

De Passe, meanwhile, is played by Laura Harrier in the film, an experience which she calls "good and weird!”

Michaelis in movie theaters now.

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These were our favorite breakup songs from the ’90s: Do you agree?

The ’90s were a strange and glorious decade for heartbreak. Radio could hand you grunge alienation and R&B devastation in the same hour, and somehow both felt equally true. Breakup songs arrived raw, specific, and sometimes furious in ways that older ballads had carefully avoided. That willingness to let the hurt show unfiltered is exactly why so many of them still hit hard today.

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These were our favorite breakup songs from the ’90s: Do you agree?

This was the decade that proved a breakup song did not need a string section to make you cry at the wheel. It needed a voice willing to go somewhere uncomfortable. From the aching quiet of a single-camera apartment video to a three-chord throat-shred onJagged Little Pill, the ’90s gave us some of the most emotionally honest farewells ever put on tape. These were five of the favorites.

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“Nothing compares 2 u” by Sinéad O’Connor (1990)

Prince wrotethe songfor his side project, The Family, in 1985, where it went almost completely unheard. Sinéad O’Connor turned it into one of the most devastating vocal performances of the decade. The song topped the Hot 100 for four weeks and hit number 1 in 17 countries. Billboard named it the number one World Single of 1990. The tear in the iconic close-up video came from O’Connor thinking about her mother, who died in 1985.

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“You oughta know” by Alanis Morissette (1995)

Few debut singles landed with the force of“You Oughta Know”. Flea and Dave Navarro of the Red Hot Chili Peppers played bass and guitar, but the real weapon was Morissette herself, delivering what she described as coming from a very devastated time. It hit number 1 on the Modern Rock chart and won two Grammys in 1996. The identity of the man it was written about has never been confirmed.

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“Don’t speak” by No Doubt (1996)

Gwen Stefani and her brother Eric originally wrote“Don’t Speak”as a love song. After bassist Tony Kanal ended his seven-year relationship with Gwen, she rewrote it into something quieter and more resigned. Never released as a commercial single, it could not chart on the Hot 100 under Billboard’s rules, yet it dominated airplay for 16 consecutive weeks at number 1.Tragic Kingdomsold approximately 15 million copies.

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“Stay (I missed you)” by Lisa Loeb (1994)

Thesongholds a distinction no other song on this list can claim: it reached number 1 on the Hot 100 while Lisa Loeb had no record deal. Her neighbor, Ethan Hawke, passed a demo to Ben Stiller, who placed it over the closing credits ofReality Bites. The music video was Hawke’s directorial debut, shot in one continuous take in a SoHo loft.

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“Un-break my heart” by Toni Braxton (1996)

Songwriter Diane Warren has said that Toni Braxton initially refused to record“Un-Break My Heart”, fearing it would lock her into an adult contemporary image she was trying to escape. She recorded it anyway. The song spent 11 consecutive weeks at number 1 on the Hot 100 and won the Grammy for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance in 1997. It has since passed 500 million views on YouTube.

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The ’90s breakup song was not one thing. It was O’Connor’s grief and Morissette’s rage and Stefani’s exhaustion and Loeb’s confusion and Braxton’s reluctant devastation, all on the same radio dial. Which of these five still gets under your skin the most?

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Tia Stokes Addresses Her 'Controversial' Decision to Not Allow Her Kids Phones, Despite Them Having Social Media (Exclusive)

Tia Stokes initially went viral by spreading positivity while undergoing chemotherapy for acute myeloid leukemia (AML), but she's retained her social media following by sharing broader content about her life

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  • She regularly tells her followers — which total at over 1 million on Instagram and 2.6 million on TikTok — about her life as a parent, including her rule about not allowing her five kids to have cell phones

  • Stokes, 40, tells PEOPLE that she made the decision to protect their childhoods, but she acknowledges that it was a fairly "controversial" decision since they already have their own social media pages

Tia Stokesis a cancer survivor, a dancer, a content creator and an overall advocate for hope and positivity, but most importantly, she's a mom. And just as she does in her many other roles, Stokes does parenting her own way.

The mother of fiveinitially went viralwhile undergoing chemotherapy for acute myeloid leukemia (AML). Despite the toll it took on her body, she danced every day of her treatment. The ritual earned Stokes, 40, a following of over 1 millionInstagramfollowers and 2.6 million onTikTok.

Today, she's five years into remission and officially considered an AML survivor, and her social media presence has evolved to focus on broader lifestyle content in addition to her recovery. Stokes regularly posts about raising her children, whose ages range between 6 and 17 years old, and she maintains one household rule that continues to pique viewers' interests:the kids don't have cell phones.

Tia Stokes with her husband, Andy.Credit: Tia Stokes

Stokes tells PEOPLE she knows it's perceived as somewhat of a "controversial" decision, especially since she's the first to acknowledge their lives are already heavily documented online. Plus, her children even have pages of their own, though Stokes says she runs their personal accounts, and her sons, who play competitive sports, appreciate having a place to post their highlight reels for future recruiting opportunities.

"They all have little platforms. They're not heavily growing — we're not trying to grow them, if that makes sense," says Stokes of her kids' social media activity. "But when I post family stuff, I'll just collaborate [with their accounts] on the picture. So then as they get older, if they want it later, they can have it. If they want to use it as a resume."

Ultimately, she and her husband, Andy, chose not to give their kids phones to preserve what they see as the most precious part of childhood. "You only get the gift of just living radical freedom like this for 18 years, really," Stokes notes.

Adults are often burdened by the pressure to respond to texts, calls and emails no matter where or what they are doing. Stokes makes the point that as a kid, there's simply less need to be reachable all the time. If the kids really want to contact someone, they are allowed to make calls and send texts using their parents' phones.

"It's not so much as our kids having access to the world, but the world having access to our kids," she says. "We've explained this to our kids, 'Trust me, bro, you're not going to get these moments back. As soon as we give you that phone, it's going to be colleges, it's going to be teachers, it's going to be a job, it's going to be friends.' I mean, us as adults, we're just consumed by people wanting something."

Stokes remembers that the kids did slightly push back when they were first told they weren't getting phones, and they cited the fact that all of their friends had devices of their own. "But literally now they don't even want a phone," Stokes says of her kids. "They don't even ask for it. They don't even care."

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Tia Stokes with her daughter.Credit: Tia Stokes

Her eldest son, Major, is allotted 15 minutes per day to check his social media page, where he usually receives messages from his friends. But Stokes says that when she first started giving him phone access, he also became more critical of himself as an athlete. She noticed that after Major saw other kids' highlight reels online, he developed a tendency to compare that content to his own abilities.

"He was saying, 'Oh my gosh, so-and-so got this award. Why didn't I get invited? I've got to be as big as him. Oh, I've got to be as strong as him,'" Stokes says of the 17-year-old. "I saw that confidence start to shift, going down within his life and within just sports."

Finally, she told him she didn't think social media was the best thing for his mental health, and Major agreed. Stokes said her son had noticed the change, too.

Tia Stokes with her four sons.Credit: Tia Stokes

Stokes says, "I finally told him, I said, 'Major, I think I'm not going to let you get on as much, buddy ... I think it's just a good idea just to be here. Just do your thing, focus onyoursports, focus on school.'"

She's regularly asked if she worries about her kids falling behind socially, but she says their lack of cell phones hasn't set the kids apart. "I mean, my kids are popular. I'm not trying to boast or anything like that. They're very well-liked, they're athletics, they're athletes, they are thriving where they're at," Stokes says.

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Her decision to restrict that screen time pays off when she gets messages from their teachers, who compliment the way Stokes' kids participate in class and make meaningful contributions to conversations. However, nothing feels as rewarding as when the kids notice the difference themselves.

"They go out with their friends, and everybody's on their phone," she says. "[My kids] are just sitting there like, 'Anybody want to talk to us?'"

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It’s been a strange year forJill Zarin. The formerReal Housewives of New Yorkstar kicked things off with a racially-tinged rant aboutBad Bunnythat quickly sparked a backlash she still hasn’t recovered from. Now, things have taken another turn. She and her boyfriend,Gary Brody, are wrapped up in a lawsuit over a piece of pickleball equipment.

The former RHONY star and her boyfriend Gary Brody are the focus of a lawsuit

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According to court documents reviewed byTMZ, a man named Noah Springer is suing Jill, Gary, and GNG Enterprises. He claims he helped develop a machine called the Go-No-Go, which allows pickleball players to test their paddles before games to ensure they meet standardized regulations.

In the lawsuit, Noah alleges that he invested $500,000 in 2022 in exchange for a 25% stake in Pickle Pro Labs, LLC, along with a promised monthly salary of $5,000. He says those paychecks stopped around 2024, right around the time Jill and Garyentered the picture.

Noah says that around that same time,the RHONY alumand her boyfriend founded GNG Enterprises and started selling the Go-No-Go machine. They’re allegedly marketing the device as their own, even though it was “conceived, engineered, researched, funded, and developed by Pickle Pro Labs.”

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Noah is seeking an injunction to stop GNG Enterprises from selling the Go-No-Go machine, as well as damages. Meanwhile, GNG has already been named the official paddle deflection testing device across several major pickleball organizations. According to Noah, all of that business could have been going to Pickle Pro.

Jill and Garyhaven’t publicly commentedon this latest mess. Keep your eyes peeled for more details as this unfolds in court.

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